massachusetts has had plenty of time. let's not ignore the concrete example here -- >> romneycare, obamacare had its model. >> it sure did -- >> in romneycare. >> and medical bankruptcies have not been reduced in massachusetts, despite everybody having access to this piece of paper because this piece of paper does not cover you when you need it. >> as you sit here, i think we're watching climate change, as you said earlier, wreck our planet. we've seen vast sums of money overwhelm our elections. we know the gap between rich and poor is getting wider. i mean, aren't you just a teeny, weeny bit discouraged after all these years of protesting, going to jail nine times between you, giving up your practice -- >> actually, i'm really encouraged, to tell you the truth. you know, what was hard was breaking up with that abusive relationship. that is very hard. but once you've broken up and you realize all these other wonderful people out there that you can be working with, with whom you can have sort of mutual reinforcing communit